"At Willow Creek, we feel that God has given us a plan, but it doesn’t necessarily have to apply to every church. In fact, we believe that this may be one of the few churches that God, manifesting a sense of humor if you will, has decided to say, ‘Look, I’m saying to give them a little different kind of plan over here’.
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"Thirty years ago, we were in a movie theater and thought it was so cool because we were finally delivered from the horrors of stained glass and wooden pews."
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Concerning Fundamental Churches, "Those churches have closed down or have been merged with a church that has a more positive vision. "
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